In this episode of Let’s Talk Tri Delta, Chief Engagement Officer Elizabeth Howard DiMartino, Boston, welcomes Jeanne Cherundolo McPhillips, William & Mary, an educator, entrepreneur, podcaster, author of “Be Your Own Hero” and one of Tri Delta’s biggest champions. Together, they explore why confidence grows in community, the importance of surrounding yourself with women who cheer you on and how the spirit of Tri Delta continues to inspire Jeanne’s work every day.
In this upbeat, energetic yet heartfelt conversation, Jeanne reflects on the parallels between Tri Delta and her life’s work, why every woman needs a circle of other women who believe in her and how believing in yourself can change everything. Drawing from her book, podcast, teaching and work through SuperGirlls, she shares practical advice for building confidence, recognizing your unique gifts and embracing every new chapter. From writing yourself a love letter to remembering that “your network is your net worth,” Jeanne leaves listeners with wisdom on recognizing their own potential that’s both inspiring and actionable.
You’ll leave this episode feeling like you’ve spent an hour with one of Tri Delta’s greatest advocates and cheerleaders, someone who believes wholeheartedly in the power of women supporting women. As she steps into her new volunteer role as member experience advisor for our Psi Chapter at the University of Pennsylvania, Jeanne continues to live out the same mission that has guided her career. This conversation reminds us that sisterhood isn’t just something we experience in college but something we carry with us for life!
[Jeanne Cherundolo McPhillips on “Becoming Your Own Hero”]
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Welcome back to another episode of Let's Talk Tri Delta podcast. My name is Elizabeth DiMartino, and I have the privilege of serving as Tri Delta's Chief Engagement Officer. I joined Tri Delta at our Alpha Chapter at Boston University, and I am so passionate about how our beloved fraternity supports, encourages, and empowers women at all ages and stages of life. And that's why today I am so excited to welcome Jeanne McPhillips from our Alpha Mu Chapter at William & Mary. Jeanne is a visionary leader, author, and educator, and is the founder of Supergirlls LLC, where she has spent years empowering women and girls to step boldly into their leadership potential. Jeanne teaches business at the Savannah College of Art and Design and holds an MBA from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. Her bestselling book, Be Your Own Hero, has earned five-star reviews for its honest storytelling and practical tools for women's empowerment. At her core, Jeanne is a cheerleader for women, passionate about helping them shine, and finds that she can help people build the life that they are meant to lead. We cannot wait to dig in with you today. So welcome, Jeanne. Thank you, Elizabeth. Wow, I'm getting so emotional. What an amazing intro. And I want to thank you and Tri Delta and the Sisterhood for this opportunity to share my story. Absolutely. We're so happy to have you here. And I have the special honor of having gotten to meet you just a couple of weeks ago at our convention. And I know you were there kind of taking it all in, sharing your story and meeting some of our Tri Deltas while you were in Denver. And so happy to now have the opportunity to talk a little bit about what you have been up to and what's next for you. So let's dig in today if we can. Well, can I just say an echo? The unbelievable experience that the Tri Delta Conference was. So if anyone's listening and thinking about joining the conference in 2028, in Vegas, by the way. Vegas, baby. That's right. Do not stop, okay? Run to the registration because it is a phenomenal experience. It just reinforces everything that we know and love about the sisterhood. And I was just overwhelmed. It was... So thank you for that, because Elizabeth had a lot to do, her and her team, putting that together. Wow. Well, thank you for the endorsement, Jeanne, and thank you for sharing some of that with us, that experience with us. I think it was your first time coming to a Tri Delta convention, right? Right. So after all those years of being an alumna, now seeing a Tri Delta convention, I think it's a full circle moment, especially thinking back to your days when you started your journey with Tri Delta. So let's go back and take it all the way back to college where you attended, as we said, at William & Mary. How did you find your way initially to Tri Delta? Okay, so once a cheerleader... a cheerleader. I was a cheerleader in high school. And I went to William & Mary with the thought that I needed to connect with the group of women, again, because they were so empowering. It was an empowering experience for me in high school. And I knew that I wanted the Greek life. Mary was one of my target schools, actually my number one on my list. And one of the reasons I went there was because of the avid Greek life that existed on campus. And so during Rush, I was attracted to Tri Delta by specific sisters that were trying to recruit me. And I was just overwhelmed again by the kindness and just the feeling that you get when you meet all these Tri Deltas during Rush. And of course, it was my top choice. Luckily, I was accepted. I was brought in and recruited. And for me, it was an unbelievable experience, again, because William & Mary was very, very difficult and challenging academically. for me. And I thought in high school, I was, you know, whatever at the top of the heap, William and Mary was like, Whoa, what just happened? So if it weren't for the sisterhood and the camaraderie and just the love and feeling of family, I really needed that in college. I don't know if I would have made it through. I mean, I don't know if I would have had what it took to get through there on my own. I mean, survival of the fittest, I guess. But it really was helpful to have the sisterhood and the support of all these incredible women. And that's what Tri Delta meant to me from the start. It was just that support and that feeling of belonging and that feeling that you can do anything if you have amazing women alongside of you. I love that. You said that you might not have graduated without Tri Delta and reiterated how helpful that community was to you. What did you learn from Tri Delta? What did you hear in the chapter? What lessons have stayed with you through your personal life and into your career, even after you've graduated and stepped into the working world? I mean, I think, first of all, it's the feeling of inclusivity, the feeling, the kindness factor, the fact that we have such an. unbelievable value of philanthropy and giving back, uh, paying it forward. And, you know, the partnership, for example, that we have with St. Jude, it's just phenomenal. And the fact that we are, you know, part of that, I mean, I'm not sure if that really existed back in the day, but the philanthropy was there. The reason we were just not a party place, you know, we had other values that were deeper and I saw the way she started it out, you know, her idea was about friendship. honor, respect, kindness. And those things have stuck with me because in my career, in fashion specifically, the Devil Wears Prada is real. The struggle is real. And the women were not always kind. And I learned that you don't have to lead that way. You lead with kindness and empathy and servitude. You do not have to lead with fear. And so I think what I learned at the collegiate level, And people that were supporting you, like, and also mentorship, the mentorship was tremendous. The older sisters that having been through certain classes or different majors or different activities, and just always having that sounding board, you know, people to commiserate with. And every time you went into an activity or an event, like there they were, there were your sisters, no matter what, they're there for you, no matter what was happening. That feeling of support is what we need in life. We have to have that because we cannot do it alone. It's just, you know, it takes a village. A female village. A hundred percent. I agree with you. I think that connection, that network, that community is so important, especially for our young women who are just starting out in their career. So let's jump to that now in your career. You have graduated and you stepped out into the world of fashion. You mentioned that. Talk to us a little bit about kind of your early steps and where you landed and maybe how what you learned in Tri Delta to serve you well in those roles. So I started in fashion, like you said, and I was in it a few years and I felt that I needed something bigger. So I'm that kind of person that always wants to do the next thing. build, improve, skills, network. I always want like the next thing. What's bigger? What's next? How can I be better in life? And so that led me to the Wharton School and getting my graduate degree and my MBA at Wharton because I wanted to make a bigger impact in business than I was making somehow. And I thought the MBA was the way, it was the ticket. So I wasn't sure I was going to go back into fashion, but it turns out I did go back into fashion because of the energy and the pace. And I just fell in love with it. It got into my DNA and I was just like, that was how it was. But I was able to aspire and gain more roles of responsibility and leadership roles. And that goes back to the values from Tri Delta. Again, inspiring, empowering your teams. What does that look like? Mentorship. That's all rooted in the sorority. You know, I mean, the sorority sometimes doesn't get that positive connotation today, but it really should, because that's really there are so many positive values. And we we are now I think Tri Delta specifically is doing such a great job of getting out there into the world and telling the world what we're doing, how we're doing it. Look at all these amazing women like at the conference we had honored these women of achievement that. they're just incredible people. And not only that, the alumni that are just volunteering and keeping the sisterhood alive, you know, it's just like, why are they doing that? Because they had such a great experience at the collegiate level that they're trying to bring it and pay it forward and inspire and empower people on the way up. So as I, you know, I aspire to different roles within the fashion industry. I then jumped off the cliff. And went to work for startups thinking, yes, let's build, build, build, build. Let's see what we can do and make more of an impact. And in that journey, I started to teach at the collegiate level and realized that, wow, what an opportunity to help people that are graduating from college figure out what it is that they want to do. And teaching really brought everything to fruition. It was like a light bulb went off, like bing. You, this is your purpose. You are supposed to inspire and empower young women. Now you can do that in business. And I was doing that in business, not just women, of course, but I felt like that was where I was attracted. You know, I was attracted to helping women because I am one and we have a different set of challenges than our male counterparts. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So we need to have mentors and the mentorship is something that. We just again, it's something we don't talk enough about and execute on. So the teaching allowed me to provide that, provide coaching, provide mentorship. So I started doing that on a part time basis as an adjunct professor at NYU and at Parsons, some other schools in New York and Manhattan. That's where I spent most of my career life. And then I ended up back in industry. at, you know, the VP level back in the retail industry. And I was managing, you know, bigger teams, making a bigger impact. And then unfortunately, it all came to a screeching halt. And it happens in corporate America. These things happen, right? You just don't know. You can't always see it coming. And all of a sudden, what you know to be a reality is no longer a reality. So what do you do? Well, I said, this is my moment to create the next chapter what is that going to look like and that's when I took all the information and all the knowledge i had from teaching and what i was experiencing there and the opportunity in the white space to say okay i want to create super girls and that name came from a name actually that my husband called me super girl because he thought I do a lot of things and you do so much you're super girl so that's where that came from only i spell it with two l's the second l for love So Supergirlls. So I started a community. I was going around to schools and speaking to different schools, Tri Delta chapters where I could and doing that on a one on one basis. And I was doing webinars and then COVID hit. So, you know, things changed for that. And I said, OK, I made an intentional pivot. At that point, I had an opportunity to go teach at SCAD, which is where I am now. as you mentioned, Savannah College of Art and Design. And I thought, okay, I'm doing this one-to-one. Perhaps I can do it one-to-many. And as a professor in an undergraduate institution, I can really pay this thing forward, right? So I had this opportunity to teach there, to teach business, which is what I knew, and light up the minds of artists and designers and inspire them to be the creative leaders of the future. I love that. And so I took this intentional pivot into EDU. I mean, I wasn't trained as an educator, but it was kind of in my blood. And now I build curriculum and do so many different things at the campus level. But at the same time, Elizabeth, I was writing my book because in any platform, digital platform or community, you need a kind of like a sounding board. You need a foundation that you can kind of take and take it to the next level again building how can i take it to the next level so this background right now i'm going to remove it in a second but this actually is from my book and it's an illustrated graphic novel called be your own hero and i know we're going to talk about that in a few minutes but i just want to we are yep yeah and uh so supergirlls so be your own hero became um like a love-hate relationship writing a book i mean i think it was I love the journey. It was really, really hard, but it was an incredible journey to tell stories and try to figure out how am I going to target or write and target and engage this audience, which is young women, collegiates and young alumni who are figuring out how to launch. So I'm going to remove the background now just to. All right. There we go. Great. So the Supergirl's book and platform was the next thing, you know, on the docket. And that just recently launched, like it launched in December of 2025. And I've been kind of working that. And at that point, I was able to re-engage with Tri Delta to my delight. And because Tri Delta is my audience, right? So what better place, like you said earlier, come full circle. Absolutely. I love what you have referenced from your founding of Supergirlls that you talk about building a posse of women to support your dreams and that being intentional. Talk to me a little bit more about that and maybe connect that to Tri Delta and what our women experience when they join. So because of that experience, the Tri Delta sorority experience at William & Mary inspired me for Supergirlls. And it inspired me for my book because it's all about the sisterhood. This is like the tagline that I say all the time. And it's all over the book. It's all about the sisterhood. It can mean sorority for a lot of women or not. It can mean a group of women that you have in your life that are supporting you. At every phase of our lives, we need this support system. We're in a relationship. We just got married. We got a new job. We're having children. We have grandchildren. Whatever it is, it's important to have a support system. So I believe that that is what I learned. And it really went deep at the collegiate experience. And I think that's what happens with our current collegiates. I think they see this tremendous organization that's filled with kindness and value and just, you know, paying it forward into the universe. And they see that and they also feel supported. We have scholarships, we have all these things, alumni and the network. We haven't even talked about that. What an incredible network. And that's important for young women to understand that the network is your net worth, right? I mean, it's a cliche. But it's so true because that's how you get things done in your life. And you help people and they help you. And, you know, it goes back and forth that way. Yeah. I think the idea of our, you know, what I wish you could tell every collegiate member how important that community, that network is going to be to you at all ages and stages. I feel like that's the secret to life, right, is having that. community around you. You mentioned different ages of your children, little ones to empty nesting to aging parents, all those ages and stages, how important that community is. But particularly when we're launching, right? When our young women are launching into adulthood, when they're making their foray into their first careers and their families, right? I mean, you're right, especially that because you go from college. where it's insulated, and yes, you have this great sisterhood, all of a sudden you're alone. Bang. Like, now what? But if you stay connected to the sorority, or you form your own, you know, other, you have another way of having these girl posses, like maybe it's an alumni group, or something at your office, or your neighborhood. It's like you need it. I mean, I had... gangs to your point in every aspect like when my son was in high school all the moms were like besties so it's it's just it's just so important but if you but to your point of telling people telling our collegiates that like you don't understand like what this the sorority is yes on campus you have a couple hundred members or you know if that but it's so huge and like these are your sisters they're your sisters and they're going to respond to you no matter what it's like a built-in Security blanket. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk a little bit about, you know, when you think about the why that you stepped into founding Supergirlls and pivoting into teaching and really investing in young people today. I hear you say that it's important for them to invest in their own network, but also to understand. their own potential. Talk to us a little bit about what you mean about understanding your own potential. So I think a really good place, a framework for me to use, it goes back to the book because I talk about the book in the book. I have, it's get good, get girls, get going and get the gig. Get good means getting to know yourself and understanding what your gifts are and then being able to speak about them. So before you do anything, you need to understand that. It's just like a business. You need to do a SWOT analysis on yourself. What are your strengths? What are your weaknesses? But more importantly, what are your strengths? What are your unique gifts that you offer the world? Because you do have unique gifts. Every one of us is different. Every one of us is blessed with at least one gift that's different. You need to identify what that is. That is like your superpower. And that you can take forward and then build the network and really speak about yourself and be confident about what it is that you offer the world and with your head high and then just, you know, go out there and market yourself. But until you can identify that and connect with that, you're kind of floating. I mean, it gives you like a North star. It gives you a direction. It gives you confidence. Like going back to the sorority, I'm sorry, but I have to just give Tri Delta more love. OK, we'll take it. The sorority, we I heard this at the conference and I was like, I am so happy that I'm hearing this. But they kind of said I don't remember who it was now. There were so many great leaders, including yourself, that were speaking. But we are in the business of inspiring women's confidence. What what better business is there than that? Right. Agreed. And you reference in your book this idea of writing yourself a love letter, being your own BFF, which I love is your your fierce female, be your own best fierce female friend. Talk to us about that. I think it's a kind of a similar concept, right? Like investing in yourself, but also. giving yourself the confidence and the love. So talk to me about where that came from and press in a little more there on what that means to our young women. I might have to go deep. So let's do it. Deep Delta. So I tell a story in the book about how when I was growing up, no one really said that to me, right? There was no therapy, really. I don't want to tell you the exact years I grew up, but it was a while ago. And it didn't not that there wasn't therapy, but it wasn't as prevalent. Right. Mental health. People didn't speak about this kind of stuff back in the day. Right. They do now. And it's like, OK, to talk about. And, you know, it's more ubiquitous. But the point being that I didn't really hear that growing up. Like you're a beautiful girl. Like you have so much to offer the world. Like you are amazing. And these are your gifts. And I didn't hear that. So what I'm trying to say is. If you're not hearing that, you have to find that in yourself and tell yourself. You have to write that love letter to yourself. And if you don't love yourself first, then you can't give love to anyone else. So you have to fill the tank. And every day I say, look in the mirror, pucker up and give yourself a kiss. Kiss the morning, right? I mean, I call it the canvas. Kiss it, all right? And I also talk about this beautiful girls dance where you... the heels on or whatever your shoes of preference are. For me, it's stilettos. And do a dance. And just think about yourself as being a beautiful girl. And that's inside and out. That's not only model-esque, Victoria's Secret model. It's your unique gifts. That's what makes you beautiful. Inside and out. Yeah. And that's really back to, you know, to loop it back to Tri Delta. That's what. We heard from our founders, right? To be kind of like to all, to think more of a woman's inner character than our outward appearance, right? Isn't that where it all stems from, this idea that what's in here is beautiful and unique to each of us? So I love that. And you have a course that goes along with the book. Tell us a little bit about the course and what would someone expect if they picked up the book? I think the ideal customer or the target customer is a young collegiate, meaning college woman and early graduates, because maybe you're still trying to figure out what it is that you're going to do. Part of Supergirl's inspiration, the reason I created the whole movement to begin with. was that I saw all these people graduating and they had this amazing degree, but they had no idea what they were going to do. They didn't have a path or maybe they knew, but they didn't have a roadmap. The book is a roadmap for you. Get good, get girls, get going, get your plan together and get the gig, whatever it is, graduate school, a marriage, whatever it is, what is it that you want? And then a roadmap and a game plan, how to get there, because that's what we do. We have to do. a game plan. We need a strategy. It doesn't just happen. So I think when you're younger, you don't always think about that. You don't always think about a strategy. That doesn't mean that it can't go in a different direction. It just means you have to have intention and you have to start moving, but you need to move with a plan. So the target audience happens to be what I mentioned. However, and I've had women of all ages read the book. And because at all ages, we're getting ready to launch. So the book says, A Girl's Guide to Launching from College to Life. So in all aspects of our life, we are launching from one thing to another. We may be launching from college to a job. We may be launching from being single to being married. We may be launching from corporate America to entrepreneurship. Whatever it is, we're launching. We need to find that again. We have to find those unique gifts. whatever that power is, whatever is going to give us that confidence to do the next thing because it's different. And we have to have that confidence in order to, you know, make it come true because people aren't going to believe you. So you have to really fake it till you make it. What is it about yourself, right? Why are you, why should we hire you? That kind of a thing. I love that. And I think it really resonates when we think about. I don't think today most of us have a career that's a straight line, right? We're pivoting all the time. We pivot in our lives, as you mentioned. Maybe we go from single to married or married back to single, or we go from house full of kids to empty nesting or empty nesting to parents moving back in. We're always going through changes, and we're not in a career that's likely going to. you know, hold us for 40 years anymore, right? We're moving constantly. So I think you're right. There's a lot of learning in here. And when I read it, there was a lot of things that resonate at even my more seasoned age and career experience. Exactly. Women, sisters are saying, yeah, I'm launching, I'm doing this. I remember when I, when my son went to, well, he went to college, so I wasn't really an empty nester. But then when he moved out, Now I'm really an empty nester. Like, what does that look like? Like that's launching into a whole thing. You need a whole new group of cronies. Right. That can relate or, you know, now my activities are different. My life looks different. And how do we think about that? You know, again, it's the sisterhood. It's the network. So I have two William and Mary sisters, Tri Delta sisters. I speak to every week we have a call. And when I was at conference, I talked to a lot of people who have that same kind of connection with people from their chapters or their alumni chapters. And it's just an incredible bond. And you could be totally different. I mean, that's the other thing about it, right? Tri Delta, we're not all the same. Everyone is so different, but there's something about us that bonds us together in this magical way. I went to conference. I knew like, I don't know. two people maybe there, three people when I, when I got there and before I left, it was like, I felt like I was back in college again. Like all these people, oh my God, all these sisters. And it didn't even feel weird. Like I didn't even, didn't even matter that I never knew them before. It was, it's just, it's so magical. So I love that. I love that Tri Delta is still showing up in your life in very relevant ways, right? At all ages and stages, I think we say, and there's. lots of ways for us to engage with each other. And we'll talk about that in a little bit about how members can stay connected across time and space. So thinking about, you know, the you that joined back at William & Mary to today, is there a piece of advice that you would give to yourself, you know, thinking about your at the beginning of your journey or something that you wish someone had told you as you stepped out, you know, into your first you know, your first professional experience that you could share with us. Yes, absolutely. Great. So graduating from William & Mary, I thought I was like the bomb diggity, right? I had this great job in fashion in New York and I was going to make it, right? Now, again, I went out like a bull in a china shop. I did not consider the network. this built-in network that was already there of Tri Delta. So I guess the advice would be, do not stop the connection of the sisterhood when you step outside of those off that campus. Stay with it because it's super powerful. These women understand you. And like you said, it's like, it doesn't matter when you come back. you come back no matter what, no matter when, what part of your life, doesn't matter, come back, you're Tri Delta. And so this whole idea, again, mentorship and the network and having that built-in network already instead of, yeah, of course, you can go build another one with other people in your life, of course, but it's already there. Why wouldn't you stay in touch with it instead of thinking, okay, I'm going to the next chapter. I'm in the next chapter. Don't forget. where you came from. Yeah, you're right. And it's something that we try to help our graduating seniors recognize that there is this network beyond the four years that they've been on a campus. We have 190 alumni chapters waiting for young women to come and join their ranks and connect with women in their communities. We have online groups now. We have opportunities. There's so many ways to plug in and keep that network growing, really. I think for many of us, you know, the people that we talk to are sometimes are, you know, women we met back when we joined, but often it's women we've met along the way at, you know, volunteer experiences together or alumni chapters or just, you know, I hear all the time, oh, I worked with someone and we were, you know, got to be really good friends. And we realized we're both Tri Delta's, you know, it happens in the workplace where you, you connect in those shared values, really, really form that connection. So I love that encouragement for our young women. Don't forget that you have this network behind you. Because this just happened to me actually. And I shared it in the Tri Delta Connections Facebook group. Yeah. Because I was beyond like blown away by this. So I had someone reach out to me on Instagram to come speak at their launch party, which was for their business. And it's called Beach House Links and it's actually a permanent jewelry business. And she did this big launch party and she wanted a speaker to talk about girl power, which, you know, I love. to do. So I went and I spoke at the event and it was amazing. It felt like a sorority. I mean, it was all these women vendors. People were there. It was this big party. It was just really, really fun. And afterwards, of course, we're posting on social media. And then the next weekend was the convention. And so, of course, I'm posting like crazy about the convention and about sisters I met and this and that. This woman, her name's Jenny. She saw my posts and she was like, wait, I'm in that sorority. I said, what? We had no idea that she was also a Tri Delta from Stockton. I had no idea. And so like we were the whole time we connected, we bonded over her business and girl power and we were Tri Deltas. I love that. I wish we would have known that going in because we could have made it even a bigger deal. But the point is that it's just like this. It's almost like this invisible magnetic thing that brought us together. I love that. That's a great story. I love that. Jean, you're clearly somebody who's always thinking about what's next, thinking about how you can help. women through their journey and thinking about, you know, how to help them position themselves. What's next for you? What are you focusing on? Your book is out. Tell me where, you know, kind of what's on the horizon. Okay. So the book is out and the next thing that's going to be building on the book experience is a course. So I'm doing some IRL talks where I can, you know, do that here and there. I'm building a course. It should be launching in September. It's also called, you know, Be Your Own Hero, The Course. And it goes deeper. So if you have the book, the book is like the entry level way to get into this whole roadmap and ideas. And there's a lot of tools, like you were mentioning earlier, there's a lot of tools in the book. It's a graphic novel. It's very fun, interactive. It's colorful. It's beautifully done. It really is beautiful. Thank you, which I self-published, which is another jumping off the cliff experience. But anyway. And so the course goes a little deeper than the book. So it's really fun. It's online, of course. It's not, you know, crazy long and drudgery. It's going to be fun. The same vibe as the book. So that's one thing that's happening. I'm thinking about the next book, but that probably won't be for a few years. We'll see. The other thing that I'm really excited about is engaging with Tri Delta at the volunteer level. So I'm going to be the member experience advisor for Penn, which is where I was. Which is so fun. And I can't believe that came to fruition because I raised my hand and I said, I want to get involved voluntarily. Bam. I was put in region one with Carter. She said, guess what? We have this opportunity at Penn. I was like, no way. So I was. I love that. Thrilled to be able to do that so that's on the horizon because that allows me to go into the back to the place where it all started and really I know I'm in a specific role for Tri Delta of course recruiting but it also allows me to help inspire and empower these women with confidence right and however I can do that I I love to be able to do that like I'm doing that actually William and Mary we have our homecoming in October years 40 years and I'm actually going back I'm working with the alumni advisor there to to do a talk uh on with them with that chapter and with the stock team the women's soccer team so I'm doing things like that so with respect to um you know paying it forward so I get to do that with Tri Delta which is great um additional podcast I was yes that was yeah we haven't even talked about the podcast so tell us about the podcast so I was so happy when Tri Delta brought me onto the podcast because I love podcasts. I have two right now. One that's girl power is called Pink Balls. And it's about launching boldly into your next life, whatever that is, right? So of course, it's a similar target to the book, but it also engages other women that are trying to launch boldly. They have an idea what they want to do, but they need that confidence, that push. And so we tell stories of specific women. Like I had Jenny on there that I was talking about earlier. She was on my podcast and we talked about how she launched her business right out of college. Bold. So pink balls. So I'm building pink balls into a brand with the podcast. And then I have some other ideas around that with sponsors and merch. So that's in the works too. That's great. And how can people find you? How can they find your book if they want to check that out? Okay. So the book is Be Your Own Hero. The author name is Jeanne Marie on the book. It's on Amazon. So go on there, please. If you get it, please leave a review. The course will be launched in a few months on Instagram at Supergirlls with two L's and Facebook Jeanne Marie. And the podcast is Pink Balls. And right now we're on Spotify. Perfect. Okay, great. So everyone needs to check that out. And you can also find Jeannie in our Tri Delta Connections group. So first, I want to just say thank you, Jeanne. It's such a delight to have you on today. You and I have been talking for a little while, and I'm glad we finally were able to make this happen. And of course, like I said at the beginning, it was so great to connect with you in person, IRL, at convention. So thank you for joining us there. To everyone listening, if you love to read, we want you to go ahead and join over 3,700 Tri Delta sisters who are now on Facebook. We have a connections group called Tri Delta Connections. This is our Facebook-based community where sisterhood comes to life through everyday moments, real conversations, genie shared. that she posted recently. It's an open forum to just share what's going on in your life. If you are moving and you want someone to help you with where you should be living, what kind of neighborhoods, if you are looking to connect over a reunion, it's just a great place for all of our members to connect. We're also getting ready to launch the Tri Deltas Who Read Circle in Tri Delta Connections. It's a virtual book club where members can swap recommendations, join conversations, and connect with sisters across generations. It is very easy to join this community. You just visit the Tri Delta Connections Facebook group, click on join group, answer a few quick questions, and then once approved, you can explore the pin post to find the Tri Deltas Who Read Circle and start connecting. And we hope that we will see you all there very soon. It's a great way for our members to join and really spend time together virtually. So I hope you all like, subscribe, and rate our podcast. We do love our five-star ratings. And thank you all for joining us. Thank you, Jeanne, for being here. And until next time, listeners, Delta love to all of you. Delta love.