Let's Talk Tri Delta

From Small-Town Start to Global Impact—Meet Woman of Achievement Sylvia Sydow Kerrigan

Episode Summary

Today, we welcome Sylvia Sydow Kerrigan, Southwestern, lawyer, thought leader, mentor and one of our three 2025 Women of Achievement. Her impressive career has helped shape the energy industry, influence policy and pave the way for women in law, business and beyond. It’s not every day you meet someone so accomplished and genuinely down to earth! Don’t miss this episode filled with humor, heart and brilliance.

Episode Notes

What do the jungles of Brazil, a popcorn popper, maritime law and the United Nations have in common? They’re all part of Sylvia’s incredible (and funny) journey.

In this episode, you’ll hear how Sylvia started as a shy, small-town kid and eventually made her mark in the energy industry, from serving as general counsel to being an international traveler and even spending time at the U.N. Along the way, she shares how Tri Delta helped her find her voice, build lifelong friendships and gain the confidence to chase her big goals.

She’s warm, witty and full of stories you won’t want to miss. You’ll laugh, get inspired and pick up a few gems of wisdom about careers, confidence and giving back.

Episode Transcription

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(upbeat music)

Welcome to another episode of our Let's Talk Tri Delta podcast. I'm so glad that

you've joined us today. I'm Mindy Tucker, Tri Delta’s CEO. And each year, Tri Delta

recognizes a few extraordinary women who are exemplifying Tri Delta values and paving

the way for the next generation of women. I am excited to date to introduce you to

one of those women. Sylvia Kerrigan from our Theta Epsilon chapter at Southwestern

University has been named a 2025 Woman of Achievement. She is an accomplished legal

mind, an energy industry leader, and a dedicated mentor to future professionals. She's

a dual citizen of the U.S. and Brazil. We'll get into that a little bit. She She

attended the University of Texas Law School, clerked for Texas Supreme Court Justice

Eugene Cook. After graduating from law school, she joined the firm of Clan Bell and

Murphy. She practiced international corporate law, maritime law, insurance, and complex civil litigation. There's a lot to unpack there. During the next 22 years of her

career, she served as the executive by president and general counsel and corporate

secretary at Marathon Oil Corporation. And while she was there, she was named a top

10 exploration and production executive by the Houston Business Journal. She received

the Ernest E. Smith Lifetime Achievement Award in recognition of her contributions to

the energy industry. She took a leave from there to serve the United Nations

Security Council as on their commission day, (speaks in foreign I'm not going to get

that right. You got it. In Geneva.

2022, this is like the most exemplary bio I get to read through here. In 2022,

she joined OXY as a senior VP and chief legal officer. She serves on the board of

trustees at Southwestern University, currently as a vice chair of the board and as a

chair of the trusteeship committee. She also serves and the executive committee of

the Kay Bailey Hutchison Energy Center at the University of Texas, where she

previously had the privilege to serve as their executive director. I am going to

take a big breath now after all of those accomplishments and that esteemed career

and introduce you to Sylvia Kerrigan. Hi, Sylvia. Thanks for joining me. Well, thanks

for having me. I'm glad to see that my mom was able to provide you with that bio

because only mother would say all that. - I don't know, proud mom, proud Tridelta,

same thing, right? We're very proud to have you in our sisterhood. I'm so excited

for you to get to know our listeners today or them to get to know you. Let's

start off with a little background. I wanna dig into this dual citizenship that you

have with the US and Brazil. So tell us a little bit about yourself and about

that.

- Well, I guess I'm just a small town girl. The twist is that the small town was

in the Amazon in Brazil, and I was a surprise baby.

My brother and sister were 14 and 12 years older than me, and so I don't know. My

parents were fairly sure that they were done having kids, and there must have been

something in the water. So here I am, still a small town girl,

but back in the States. And so, yeah, it was just a twist of fate,

but it was, yeah, I loved it. - That's awesome. What drew you to Southwestern

University? Did you come from Brazil at that time to do that? - Yeah, my dad got

really sick in the Amazon, and so we ended up back in the States,

and He was a small town person growing up. He and my mom grew up in Gittings.

And so they settled back in a small town in Texas in the shadow of Southwestern

University. And I was extremely shy, all growing up.

And so I had decided that I was going to go off and go to TCU actually for

college and at the last minute that summer I got cold feet and so my hometown Alma

Mater Southwestern University agreed to take me in and that's how I ended up there.

Okay all right and then you joined Tridelta there what was about what was that

journey like? Um you know like being tremendous grace because I was still a very

awkward and shy and uncomfortable small town person. I didn't know any tri -deltas in

advance. I didn't know any alumni. I'm not a legacy. So,

you know, really, it was just experiencing that helping hand and that friendship and

that unconditional And so it was, it's a major gift in my life.

- Yeah. Do you have any standout memories from your tri -delta collegiate experience,

things that you can still look back on today and say, wow, that was just such a

great time? - Oh gosh, you know, I mean, my whole experience was transformational.

I really learned to be myself at Southwestern. and I got a voice from being with

my sisters, really kind of learned who I was. I had some wonderful sisters and

roommates and I had a sister, Sally Shuford,

who could make anything in a popcorn popper. In an old fashioned popcorn popper, she

could make a queso, but I mean, that's easy, but she could make a budge and a

popcorn popper. I mean, you know, we weren't allowed a kitchen, but it's amazing

what she could, what she could make. We called driving around in a small town,

we called it rolling. So we spent a lot of time driving, even a lot more time

trying to figure out like the meaning of life. And, you know,

just that feeling that you out of inclusion where you know that none of you will

be left behind that you have that network. Yeah, so funny. I think about my

experience a lot and it really it was belonging. I don't think we knew that word

back then to call it that. That's what we had and the experiences. So how did you

end up going to law school? Is that something you knew you always wanted to do? Oh

gosh, my father said I could be anything I wanted to be grow up when I grew up

as long as it was a doctor or a lawyer and I was afraid of blood.

You were what? Afraid of blood. There you go. That makes a choice.

So that was that on you know and despite Sally's best efforts I wasn't particularly

good at biology in college so I came out with a philosophy degree which meant that

I was eminently qualified to be a waitress when I graduated from college but I

turned out to not be a very good waitress either and that's why I'm a lawyer.

Okay I think there's a lot more to it than that but I love it. So tell me about

your early career then you get out of law school and what happens how do you get

on that sort of career path? - Well, I decided that I really wanted to,

I really enjoyed maritime law, which is international shipping and whatever happens in

the ocean. So I became a maritime lawyer and that led me to Houston and that led

me to the energy industry because so much of the energy industry at the time was

offshore. And so I fell in love with energy and the rest kind of history,

that's how I sort of lucked into my career. Were there particular people or mentors

along the way that supported you and helped you? Yeah, I mean, Andy,

I'm afraid that that's going to be like an Academy Award acceptance speech where I

never stopped and then I've still forgotten people, so I hesitate.

But, you know, I did have, you know, I had a couple of great mentors,

my first bosses in maritime law, and, you know, people who took a chance on me,

and who just kind of, in spite of all appearances, to the contrary, told me that I

was to be able to do this. - Did you have a question that you could look to?

I mean, it's 'cause I would think energy in particular, that maritime law, that's

probably not at that time, very heavily populated by women. So how were you able to

kind of see yourself in that world?

- I really didn't see myself in that world, but I had such a great support system,

you know, and that included, you know, one of my older sisters at Tridelta,

Jean, at the time her name was Jean Jansen, and she, you know,

she was a lawyer. She came to Houston, she helped me get a clerkship,

and I just kind of leaned on people like that and decided that this was my dumb

idea that I wanted to pursue this this maritime law and now I actually I work for

a female CEO. First time I've ever worked for a woman and she's just like setting

the world on fire doing all sorts of exciting things on the energy transition and

so I guess we just kind of all grew up discovering it together.

- Yeah. How did the opportunity at the United Nations come about?

- Honestly, I kind of accidentally got a job while I was on vacation. I was in

Geneva and I was meeting with one of my friends there from law school,

actually. And he introduced me to the folks who are running this this indemnization

committee which in English is the indemnification you know committee so it's the

folks who were hurt when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait they put together a fund and

we administered you know we basically did arbitrations to determine how much they

needed to be paid back for their losses and some of the really big losses were

energy companies and I came from an energy company,

so I Started talking to them about that and the next thing you knew they they they

offered me a job Wow, wow And you lived in Geneva for that lived in Geneva,

but spent most of the time in the Middle East So another place where there weren't

a lot of female role models, right? went an amazing experience I thought. Yeah,

really blessed. And so then you were gonna retire. You had this crazy idea to

retire and then you didn't. Oh I retired I retired five years.

I went off and ran an energy center at the University of Texas as their executive

director just like your executive director and so you know Matt,

my husband laughs and he says, "You know, I didn't really retire. I was just under

new management." And I guess that's true. They don't sound like retirement to me.

Technically, I was no longer a lawyer. I was doing this, you know, just for love

of the university and an interest in seeing, you know, new people come into the

industry that had done so much for me and meant so much, in my opinion, for the

world. So that's what I was doing and I met this fabulous woman,

Vicky Hallib, and got to know her a little bit and then she talked me out of

retirement. So that's why I'm back at work. And here we are. Here we are. I love

that.

So you, everything feels very busy. There are lots of things that you've juggled

over the years. How do you find balance in your life, especially as a woman in

business leadership and other pursuits?

I meditate. I do yoga. I walk dogs. I drink the occasional wine.

But honestly, my, You know, like the wind beneath my wings and the touchstone that

keeps everything together is my husband, Matt. Well,

what's that? And that may be a similar answer to this next question, but you know,

I know myself in a leadership position, running a business. Not everything goes as

planned. Not everything is shiny and happy roses all the time. How do you handle

setbacks and keep moving forward? You know, I guess that I have never believed that

there is just one way to get from point A to point B, and kind of my career has

been helping other people get from point A to point B, even though they can't do

it in the way that they maybe think that they want to. So it's a little bit

ingrained in me. I think it's also kind of, as I'm talking to you, I'm realizing

it's also kind of my personal story, right, which is just, I didn't,

I didn't do this. This was done for me and I at best co -created it.

I have a friend who Um, we are in control of nothing,

but we influence everything and I, I do believe that.

I mean, if we're in control, just, you know, if you want to hear God laugh, tell

her your dreams. And, you know, but yeah, they're, you influence how you,

how you show up influences everything. Um, and that difference in control and

influence and what those words mean. I think it's really important there.

So here we are. The reason we're talking is you've been named a 2025 Woman of

Achievement for Tridelta, which is just so lovely to be able to share with you and

recognize you in this way. How does it feel to receive this honor from an

organization you care about? What does that recognition mean to you? I mean, it's

just as improbable to me today as it was the day that Tridelta first opened its

arms for me, right? So it's just a feeling of surprise

and just gratitude for the organization's graciousness.

I mean, it's me who should honor you, not the other way around. Well,

we're happy to honor you and recognize you. I think one of the things we learn and

try to do and it's talked about a lot in this sort of how we serve others, this

passion for service that is sort of ingrained in us. And you've, You've carried that

out. You've been on several boards. You've continued your philanthropic work. What are

some of the organizations you've been involved in? How have you sort of carried that

passion for service out in your life? So you've already been kind enough to mention

a couple of higher ed education initiatives that I'm on boards for,

both by Alma Mater, Southwestern and UT, who along with Tri -Delta transformed my

life. So I'm happy to be able to give back to that.

Where Matt and I are in terms of just giving our personal time, we're passionate

about animal assisted therapy, which is basically a long way of saying our dogs are

certified to go into Texas Children's Hospital and visit kids and do that every

couple of weeks.

We do pro bono work, which is just providing free legal services to people who

otherwise are unable to pay for access to the legal system. So that is an expensive

system to try to access. We care about cultural missions like we're members of the

Asia Society, interfaith ministries, Woods Hole Research Institution up in and New

England where we were retired to. So those are some of the some but again I want

to do into a get into an academy awards and they're running because that's just

that's just you know that's just today. And we're grateful for every

opportunity we have to pay it back and to pay it forward. But leaving that aside,

you know, every day provides us with unscripted moments to reach out and help.

And so ask me again in a year and I'll probably have a different list. Yeah, I

love that. What do you think are some other lessons that Tridelta taught you that

you still see in your life today? - Well, you know, I think that I use, it's so

funny. I'm ostensibly the chair of our trusteeship committee at Southwestern

University, but my sister, Jean Jansen, who I've referred to before is on my

committee. And so I may not have ever like been a great student and I may not

have ever, you know, technically learned Robert's roles Robert's rules of order, but

I can assure you that Jean did and Jean was a good student. And so, I'll be doing

something like leading a meeting and I'll say, well, will somebody make a motion?

And Jean will be like, well, Sylvia, there's already a motion on the floor. It has

to be withdrawn before you can make it to the motion. And so to this day, I mean,

I've learned how to run meetings, how to work with people from all sorts of

different backgrounds. You know, I've learned how to extend and receive trust and

grace, but to this day, I still learn from sisters, you know,

about important things such as how to conduct meetings. - Yeah, it sounds like you

have a good cadre of Treadelta women that you're still close to,

at least Jean and maybe some others and that's what it looks like in your life

today. Yeah very much so and it's impressive the when we go back to Southwestern

and we get together with the current you know with the current chapter members they

are so awesome and so amazing. I had to give a speech at Southwestern about a year

ago and like 20 members of the sorority showed up to cheer me on.

Nice. How is that? Because I still am pretty shy and don't really,

you know, like doing stuff like that. And so they just all showed up and made me

feel welcome and like it was all going to be okay. That's what we do. We show up

for our sisters, right? That's right. So what comes next for you?

Staying in this current position? Anything else on the horizon?

I don't know. I think as long as I'm useful to my current team,

I'm super grateful to help them. They're an amazing team.

I'm trying to develop them as well, so I don't want to be in their way. I want

to, you know, give them whatever they need for me, and then I want to get out of

their way and watch them thrive. So I'm at the age where I'm lucky enough to be

able to retire again. As soon as they tell me to get the heck out of the way,

they've got it from here, and maybe Matt and I'll do some traveling. But in the

meantime, I guess they're not quite done with me yet. Well, I don't know that

anyone ever going to want to be done with you. You're a delight and I love hearing

your story and all the little facets that sort of fit around it and how you ended

up in the spaces you ended up with. Thanks for sharing everything with us today.

Well, Mindy, thank you for offering to let me to share this with you Because,

you know, you and what you're doing is so important to making sure that there are

a lot of other better Sylvia's out there. We are training up a ton of Sylvia's out

there. I love that.

Well, tell them not to be so scared.

We'll let them listen to the podcast and you can talk.

Well, thank you so much for your time. I'm So glad for our listeners that you got

to hear from Sylvia and get to know her a little bit. We're so excited to honor

her as a 2025 Woman of Achievement. We'll be continuing our discussions with Women

of Achievement and look forward to honoring them in person next year at our

convention next summer. So looking forward to that. Do you know a Distinguished Delta

like Sylvia? If you do, we'd love to learn about her. You can go to trydelta .org

and under our story, there's a distinguished Delta's page and you can click into

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